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Two lives of Pavel Chernykh
The Bolshoi Theatre soloist Pavel Chernykh
has been working with the Bolshoi Company for 17 years and can’t
imagine his life outside its walls. However, two years ago the actor
lost his voice. Fortunately he has been able to restore it and now
he feels as if he had started a new life, Pavel says, and adds that
he is ready to reach new peaks.
On March 29, 2005 we met Pavel Chernykh at
the Bolshoi where he sang Mazeppa that night. We met him in his
dressing room where we started talking and continued it between
his appearances on stage.
- When did you first
feel that singing is your vocation?
- I have been singing since as early as childhood.
Then my singing was loud and buoyant. I used to hear: ‘why are you
shouting...!’ I didn't shout, though, it was my voice that was so
strong.
- When a student at the
Conservatoire you used to be a bass, yet later at the Bolshoi theatre
you sang baritone parts. What happened?
- As I was born in Moscow, I grew up in Moscow
and on top of all, my father used to sing in the Bolshoi’s chorus,
I couldn’t even think of any other theatre but the Bolshoi. In this
sense I’m a "stay-at-home" man, I hate leaving Moscow
even for a fortnight. The very idea of going to another town made
me panic. Such a reaction left no choice for me but the Bolshoi.
I came here three times to deliver my singing in bass, and all the
three times I was asked to sing something in a higher tone. I couldn’t
make up my mind for a long time but finally I thought: " Well,
for what shall I rear my bass which is incomplete in the lower tone”.
I changed my voice for baritone, let’s say, I did it for merely
materialistic reasons, to join the Bolshoi Theatre Company. I was
accepted. I can’t say it was difficult for me to adjust my voice
to the new tembro diapason - I had always had the high notes of
it. Yet the process took 15 years and the efforts resulted in my
voice’s disappearing.
- How did it happen?
- You see, I had a purely forcing manner of
singing. I sang worse and worse. This, certainly, couldn’t last
forever. Nevertheless, there was a man who never stopped telling
me all the time: " Pasha, you sing in the wrong way. Let me
help you". The man is Alexander Fillipovich Vedernikov, the
man that kindly gave me a chance to start anew my career as a singer.
- However, there is no
denying that your career now is something to be envied: a great
number of parts, celebrities as directors, most talented partners.
Besides, you have been on tours to many countries. Could you recall
some funny and peculiar incident while you were on a tour?
- Actually, I haven’t been abroad so much.
I never loved shortlistings for I got my voice stubbed there. It’s
not that I was nervous…but I often sang in the wrong way again there.
That is why I usually sang either at the Bolshoi or for the Bolshoi.
But once there happened a thing that I will never forget, never
in my life. In 1991 the Bolshoi Company was giving guest performances
at the Metropolitan Opera in New York. During the performance, (I
sang Onegin and Eugenie Eugenievich Nesterenko – Gremin) Eugenie
Eugenievich appears on stage and takes me by my arm (strictly according
to the scenario) and I feel his arm shaking nervously. But when
he began singing … I had never heard anybody sing it so brilliantly,
Gremin’s part, and will hardly hear again. When his aria was over
the audience were shouting, moaning and crying, I felt Onegin might
go and have a rest. I had to finish my part, though. (smiling) It
was the impression of the century!
- And have you ever felt
you’d like to go and work abroad?
- Those who say they wouldn’t, probably, have
never been invited. To tell you the truth, working abroad, it’s
always more attractive in terms of money. Secondly, when a singer
works for one company only it’s a catastrophe for him. One needs
to appear in different places and all the time to prove one’s merits
as a singer. Working with different partners, conductors etc., enriches
both the actor’s professionalism and personality.
- Nevertheless, in terms
of your artistic career are you satisfied with what you have at
the moment?
- I consider that my career is only two years
old. I’ll have to prove my merits, to show that I’m still an accomplished
singer at this slightly advanced (smiles) age of mine. I cannot
say that I’ve got everything in store either. Nobody knows that.
- Does it mean you believe
in destiny, in God?
- As to the God, I’m a passive believer rather
that an active one. For me personally the question about religion
is not a proper question to ask. It’s so personal and private that
people shouldn’t talk about it. If God exists, we, all of us depend
on him as electric bulbs depend on their power station. So should
we get in touch with other “bulbs” and discuss what voltage we are
having today? It doesn’t seem important – the only thing important
is that the current runs and the bulbs give light. And so much to
that. But, certainly, I believe in its Majesty Chance. I’m superstitious,
but to a certain degree: one will better avoid dropping and losing
one’s music sheets, and once you have dropped them it’s advisable
to sit on them for a while; this is the rule followed by the singers
all over the world.
- Your attitude to the
modern productions, for example, the sensational "Rosental’s
Children"?
- I haven’t seen or heard the opera, to my
shame. Therefore I can hardly say anything about it and that’s why
I’m not going to join the chorus of angry voices. Certainly, I hear
that there are deputies who rose against the production. But you
shouldn’t just curse it and neglect its good points. For instance,
let’s take one of the repertoire pieces - Turandot, whose finale
sounds communistic to some part of the audience and draws their
negative response. For me personally such innovations sound wonderful
– they stir emotions and give pleasure! Or, for example, let’s take
Senta from " The Flying Dutch ", she was accused of terrorism,
you know! The problem, to my mind, is evidently far fetched.
- As far as I know, in
your repertoire there are pieces that cannot be attributed to opera
music. What else is to your liking?
- I sing romances and I consider it being part
and parcel of my work. If somebody invites my to sing some spiritual
music, I shall, certainly, agree, though, so far there has not been
a chance to do it. In December, 2003 I took part in a concert devoted
to bard Andrey Nikolsky’s birthday, he composes and performs his
own songs. I sang two of his songs to phonograph accompaniment.
It was very interesting on the one hand, and terrible strain and
stress on the other. It was equal to, I would say, a shortlisting
at the Bolshoi. As I am used to alive accompaniment, with people
playing for me here and now, when there is a link between the orchestra
and me. In order to get used to the phonogram rhythm I had been
stubbornly humming it for a week and still I was terribly nervous
while singing.
- Had you many teachers?
- Yes. My first teacher, Bolshakov Alexey Alexeevich,
was an outstanding, brilliant Soviet baritone; his wife became my
second teacher. The third one was Eugenie Eugenievich Nesterenko.
I’d rather say I borrowed very much from Irina Konstantinovna Arkhipova’s
experience, though we are more on friendly terms than on professional
ones. We first met in Kishinev in 1990 during the festival "Ìaria
Bieshu Inviting". Then we happened to in the same hotel in
Paris. Ìishka, my son, each morning, after breakfast, headed for
Irina Konstantinovna’s room to play. I dare say that we are friends.
But we don’t transfer our relations into professional field. She
never pulled strings for me and so on and so forth. We are both
people of character and may have a spot of argument from time to
time.
- What is your ‘emploi’?
Which roles do you find easier to get used to?
- I wouldn’t like to stamp myself. I love all
of them. Most of my characters are dressed in tails, fortunately
or not. With pleasure I would try myself in a buffoon role with
great pleasure. Moreover I would very much want to do a drama role.
My dream is working on something together with the director Petr
Naumovich Fomenko, whom I adore.
- Who are your idols
if any?
- Still, the Bible is a book of wisdom, I’d
rather use the word ‘a man of authority’ instead of the word ‘an
idol’. Firstly, Alexander Fillipovich Vedernikov, whom I respect
both as a singer and as a teacher, Eugenie Eugenievich Nesterenko
is perfectly good at acting and singing… All of them belong to the
past, though. As to contemporary singers… (thinks) I do not know
whom to name. (Pavel Chernykh’s accompanist looks into the dressing
room. Pavel sees her, smiles and rises to greet her). My favourite
accompanist, she is my second mother, actually, at the Bolshoi Natalia
Petrovna Rassudova (the family name is translated as ‘reasonable’).
When I’m alone, without her, I am an unreasonable man (laughs).
- What do you listen
to in your free time?
- I don’t listen to music when I have some
free time, but to the voices of the guys working on my construction
sight (smiles). I adore the film "Pokrovskye Vorota (Pokrovskye
Gates)". I watch it once a week and every time I find something
new in it, just like in a piece of good literature.
- What is of your interest
besides theatre? As far as I know you are a car-specialist and you
are fond of history.
- Cars are an expensive hobby, which takes
much money. Money today is an estimation of a man’s labour. You
need to be a star to get paid so much as to afford such a hobby.
I haven’t got hobbies; I’ve got a life where I try to make up for
the shortage of money with my own labour. In my free time now I
think I don’t like to do anything at all. But I would say I still
find some things interesting. It would be interesting, for example,
to make a music-literary composition on the radio with Alexander
Vodopyanov.
- Are there some favourite
directors interesting for you to work with?
- Probably, the director’s work is to be judged
about by the reaction of the public – a good director’s production
usually wins recognition, receives a warm welcome from the public.
And the director of the production is important, but still the music
is its most important aspect, it comes to the theatre’s rescue!
- Which of your numerous
partners do you like to work with most of all?
- Really much depends on them: it may be either
boring or not, either torturing or pleasant. Probably, it is easier
for me to work with women. My favourite partners – Masha Gavrilova,
Lolitta Semenina, Larisa Rudakova – good people and bright and creative
personalities. Ìarina Poplavskaya so perfectly embodies her character
that sometimes I feel at a loss.
- Being creative people
actors quite often transfer their emotions from life onto stage.
Is it familiar to you?
- Work is work I would say. During the performance
I dismiss every thought, every emotion, problem, everything, I concentrate
on my work only. I proceed onto the stage and … I feel as if the
doors of the car had slammed behind me… I don’t know and I don’t
care what is going on outside… In opera it is vital to precisely
keep up with the time, with the music. (He makes a pause as if on
the Moscow Art Academic Theatre stage) There is no chance to pretend
that you are deep in thought if you happen to forget your role.
It is no drama theatre… in the opera the conductor is threatening
you with his fist, the director is showing every sign of panic (laughs)
once you miss your start. You know opera is like front preparations
in the army. But all the same I can’t help it sometimes.
- Alongside with a great
number of main roles you’ve got a supporting one, Silvano in Un
Ballo in Maschera. Why do you so much like it?
- Un Ballo in Maschera is a very picturesque
performance, good both in terms of staging and music, a 100% performance.
The director Semyon Stein understands that the main thing in opera
is its music, mood and the image of the heroes. It turned out to
be a very cosy production. Everything you see on stage seems so
authentic that you feel you’ve found yourself in a fairy tale. And
now just imagine: I arrive at seven, at half past eight I sing Silvano
to be free at eight. Afterwards I go down to the auditorium and
watch it on till the end. This is a session in the best meaning
of the word! Afterwards I always feel as if I had attended a feast.
- You think you’re a
careerist?
- No, I don’t think so. Making a career is
to win recognition by people, both moral and material. I’m not going
to feel bitter about it and search for roundabout ways to incredible
popularity. As I see it one must work and blame himself for all
his failures.
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